Date: 2007-01-07 05:03 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah. For over twenty years.

The ham and stock are going to add salt, smoke and umami. Good veggie stock (I like "Better than Boullion" brand) adds the salt and umami, chipoltes (which are smoked ripe jalepeno peppers) add smoke, umami and some heat.
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