Date: 2008-12-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayashi.livejournal.com
Wow, the amount of cleanup they did on her back/stomach/face is crazy. (And her hair!!)

Date: 2008-12-02 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
Did you notice how her hair flares out? Or the shape of her back?

Date: 2008-12-02 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayashi.livejournal.com
Oh wow I didn't notice that they curved her back at all. I noticed the hair, but only just before I hit "post comment". I can't imagine that would be a comfortable position at all (in the doctored photo) or maybe even possible, with the curve of the back like that?

Date: 2008-12-02 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spazzy444.livejournal.com
Wow..she's not attractive at all. In either picture really, but the amount of touchup on her is incredible. Her ass got smaller, skin is smoother and a prettier color, lost 20 years in her face, back shape...

Date: 2008-12-02 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
Argh. Thin/normal thighs just aren't thin enough, are they! (not to mention the dozen or so other alterations)

Date: 2008-12-02 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemini6ice.livejournal.com
did they release the original photo? or did someone else?

Date: 2008-12-02 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
No clue, I found it second or third hand from [livejournal.com profile] meig.

It really makes me sick

Date: 2008-12-02 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meig.livejournal.com
This is one of the many reasons why women have such image issues. Not everyone has a touchup artist to clean up their flaws. It actually makes me sick to see stuff like this because I just *know* there are girls out there who think that perfection is the norm, and they will never obtain it. It's a horrible blow to someone who is entering that awful period of life known as "the teen years".

And, let's not leave men out, either. They get some touchup as well, but no where near the amount that women do. It's mainly skin tone touchups and some line removal.

Here's another site with more touch up pictures. Click on them to enlarge.


Re: It really makes me sick

Date: 2008-12-02 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meig.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, and the bizarre ones are where you can see they actually gave the models more curves. You have to love a society that promotes anorexia in their women, and yet then tells those women that not only are you not thin enough, you don't have enough curves, either. It's mind blowing.

Re: It really makes me sick

Date: 2008-12-02 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
I'd love to see those sorts of "makeovers" done to people I know. I bet I wouldn't recognize half of them.

Date: 2008-12-02 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] l0stmyrel1g10n.livejournal.com
i don't think the laws of physics allow hair to do that.

Date: 2008-12-02 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
Maybe not, but the laws of CG do!

Date: 2008-12-02 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marquiswildbill.livejournal.com
I remember awhile back someone posted every playboy centerfold. The pictures from the days before cosmetic surgery and crazy airbrushing were so much better. Because they were pictures of actual women.
Why do people even like impossible standards of beauty?

Date: 2008-12-02 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
Because they don't know any better! People think that all models really look like how they show on the magazine covers, without realizing that even the models (who are already starving themselves) have to be touched up to look that way. I mean, we *should* know better, we don't see people who look like that around us every day, but somehow so many people get taken in by media telling them that THAT is what's right and normal.

Date: 2008-12-02 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marquiswildbill.livejournal.com
It's really disgusting. For one women (or men, but I pay far less attention to male models) aren't supposed to look like that. It's not even attractive. Perfection is not really pleasing to the eye. We need subtle imperfections to let us know that something is natural.
Like I said, I was amazed at how much better looking the playboy centerfolds of old were. Because they looked like real women that you might even meet one day. A woman with the Venus DiMilo's body wouldn't get a modeling job today (I'm sure the arms don't help either).
I wouldn't recognize most models away from a shoot.
But I'm a weirdo who likes women who look natural and have human shapes. Because the female form is the most beautiful thing in the world.

Date: 2008-12-02 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zandperl.livejournal.com
Heh, had an amusing conversation this weekend where a chef friend of mine said that she thought her buff biceps were unattractive, and the only guy present at the time firmly shoved his foot into his mouth up to the calf by proudly proclaiming that it wasn't a woman's *arms* that he liked to check out.

I'd be interesting to see what the photographers/photoshoppers could do to people I know.

Date: 2008-12-02 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marquiswildbill.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHAHA. You actually got me to lol at that story.
I do look at a woman's arms, especially her upper arm/shoulder area. Women are supposed to be soft and feminine and curvy.

My kung fu brother Martin is a photographer and he showed me what just like 15-20 minutes in photoshop could do and I was impressed. He could make my skin look flawless, hair shinier, skin tone less pale. It was creepy.

Date: 2008-12-02 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soapfaerie.livejournal.com
Holy airbrushing, Batman!

Date: 2008-12-02 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmicwonder.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing that. I had never seen the video before either. I knew that the photos had work done but I didn't think that much! Wow, now I don't feel so bad that I'm not photogenic. It also makes me wonder how lazy the photographers on America's Next Top Model are when they show the really bad photos. They obviously just didn't want to spend the time on Photoshop!

Date: 2008-12-02 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakylynx.livejournal.com
Anyone can be beautiful... with the right media programs.

Date: 2008-12-03 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marquiswildbill.livejournal.com
Too bad we can't install them on everyone who looks at us.

Date: 2008-12-03 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] one4theroad.livejournal.com
i like that commercial. i hadn't seen it before.

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