"The Forever War"

[asterroc]

Started reading "The Forever War" by Joe Haldeman (traditional print book), and it is reaffirming my love of older science fiction / speculative fiction.

A few comments about the first 50 pages of the book; I don't think they're spoilers, but you might.

In the very first chapter, the narrator says they're going to a planet out past Pluto's orbit, named Charon, and with a double-take I checked the copyright date. 1974. Dwarf planet Pluto's first moon Charon was discovered in 1978 (second and third moons, Nix and Hydra, weren't discovered until 2005), so it's in fact prophetic for Haldeman to name a "tenth planet" after the ferryman of the dead to the underworld.

Also amusing is how he "predicts" that in the future interstellar armies will conscript men and women equally, and set up rosters for sex rotations. It's not entirely clear *why* they have this setup, and it certainly hasn't yet discussed how they prevent STDs and pregnancies (leave it to male authors to skip that part), but I always find it amusing to see how "classic" sci-fi always assumes a complete sexual revolution in this respect, while remaining chauvinistic in other manners (though so far I haven't seen any particular chauvinism).

Comments

[rosefox]

I don't recall quite so much about that, but it's been a while since I read it; I just remember a pair of women described as run ragged by the enforced sexual rotation with all the horny guys in their battalion, and being very glad when reinforcements showed up.

[galbinus-caeli.livejournal.com]

That is true, but it is seen as an unusual and slightly disreputable situation for the command to have allowed that to happen.

But you are right too that there is significant unspoken (and almost certainly unintended) sexism. 1960s and 1970s SF was rife with it.

[rosefox]

2000s fiction isn't much better. *)

[zandperl.livejournal.com]

Oh yup, I just read that part. It seemed to me it could have as easily gone the other way, w/ two men being run ragged by all the women, but it still didn't sit well with me.